In this week of crucial elections for the independence movement, John Drummond chats with Richard Haviland, a former senior civil servant who voted “No” in 2014.  Richard is now a Scottish independence supporter and active in the European Movement in Scotland.  In this frank discussion, Richard explains that deciding to vote Yes comes with a heavy heart, because he feels that the Uk has left him no choice.  Insightful discussion into the issues that arise in the struggle to move from No to Yes.